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a year that we should go back to the rates that we had when bill clinton was president. i want to reform the tax codes so that it's simple, fair, and asks the wealthiest households to pay taxes on incomes over $250,000. the same rate we had when bill clinton was president. we have to ask you and me and the wealthiest among us to go back to the clinton rates for income above $250,000. >> the clinton tax rates, we need to go back to the clinton tax rates. that's not a generic policy idea. that's really specific. the clinton tax rate for high income earners was 39.6%. that's what president obama was calling for during the campaign. that's still what president obama is calling for now. but now when you ask him if that's the red line, if you ask if he will accept anything else, he doesn't really answer. >> tax rates. are you -- is there no deal at the end of the year if tax rates for the top 2% aren't the clinton tax rates, period. no ifs, ands or buts, any room to negotiate, on that specific aspect of the fiscal cliff. >> with respect to the tax rates, i want to emphasize, i
a year that we should go back to the rates that we had when bill clinton was president. i want to reform the tax codes so that it's simple, fair, and asks the wealthiest households to pay taxes on incomes over $250,000. the same rate we had when bill clinton was president. we have to ask you and me and the wealthiest among us to go back to the clinton rates for income above $250,000. >> the clinton tax rates, we need to go back to the clinton tax rates. that's not a generic policy idea....
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it's a proposal that president obama likes. so why would mitch mcconnell propose such a bill? to embarrass the democrats. mcconnell wanted to prove that the democrats didn't have the votes for the legislation. senate majority leader harry reid called his bluff initially, putting the bill up to vote, but after discuss it with democratic member, reid got the support he needed and had a change of heart. claire mccaskill was presiding over the senate when mcconnell objected to voting on the bill. >> is there an objection to the original request? >> i'll object. >> objection is heard. i got whiplash. >> very strange. >> dick durbin reacted to mcconnell's unbelievable move moments later. >> so this may be a moment in senate history when a senator made a proposal and when given an opportunity for a vote, on that proposal, filibustered his own proposal. i think we have now reached a new spot in the history of the senate we have never seen before. >> let's turn to vermont senator bernie sanders, independent. i'm laughing at it too, senator. this just goes to show they are winging it bi
it's a proposal that president obama likes. so why would mitch mcconnell propose such a bill? to embarrass the democrats. mcconnell wanted to prove that the democrats didn't have the votes for the legislation. senate majority leader harry reid called his bluff initially, putting the bill up to vote, but after discuss it with democratic member, reid got the support he needed and had a change of heart. claire mccaskill was presiding over the senate when mcconnell objected to voting on the bill....
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he plays $4 interest that puts barack obama would he you won't grow bigger. they cannot allow you to fail. >> then you can make moir monor. and the rest of the bill when it doesn't stop too big to be failed? do they do other things? >> i think it is demanded. people need to realize dodd frank was passed and his 8, 900 pages. it is just a mandate. it says you need to go out and make rules on a variety of topics. >> this isn't the rule? >> it says go right 400. >> we only had one-third of the rules so there's about 400 rule making requirements of those one-third has beening finali ha finalized. one-third have been proposed. which means they are in various stijs they need to use. >> what's the harm in that? >> one of the difficulties is especially the complexity. no single person could do it. it requires two men man up power out howers. >> three laeb even year for what they have so far. there are 200 of the rules, 400 you could get that. >> no wonder the economy doesn't recover with this rolling over our heads. >> if they understood and applied they will not be
he plays $4 interest that puts barack obama would he you won't grow bigger. they cannot allow you to fail. >> then you can make moir monor. and the rest of the bill when it doesn't stop too big to be failed? do they do other things? >> i think it is demanded. people need to realize dodd frank was passed and his 8, 900 pages. it is just a mandate. it says you need to go out and make rules on a variety of topics. >> this isn't the rule? >> it says go right 400. >> we...
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in 1991, she was the one who persuaded bill clinton to run. he was telling her, no, i'm not sure this is my moment. and she said, this is your moment. take it. and of course he did. >> let me talk about the republican side. a couple of interesting things happened this week. the question of the tea party's influence in the party and certainly in the senate was an issue, as jim demint left. he is going to run heritage. you have paul ryan and marco rubio speaking at a jack kemp dinner. and i want to play a piece of sound from each of them. and it says something about how they see the future of the republican party. >> i've heard it suggested that the problem is that the american people have changed. that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had, a chance. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we need to speak to the aspirations. we mu
in 1991, she was the one who persuaded bill clinton to run. he was telling her, no, i'm not sure this is my moment. and she said, this is your moment. take it. and of course he did. >> let me talk about the republican side. a couple of interesting things happened this week. the question of the tea party's influence in the party and certainly in the senate was an issue, as jim demint left. he is going to run heritage. you have paul ryan and marco rubio speaking at a jack kemp dinner. and i...
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megyn: senator barack obama said if someone wants to build a coal powerplant, it's just that they will be bankrupted because they will be charged huge huge sums for greenhouse gases being emitted. could he effectively do it through the epa now what he was unable to do a cap-and-trade? reporter: sure, that is right. while liberal groups and others are looking for what the united nations is doing, what we used to call a kyoto at all, that process when he couldn't get a process through, he knows darn well he's not going to get through now. pushing out carbon heavy fuels like coal out of the u.s. energy mix. you mentioned west virginia. folks like democrats from those states are not happy about that. megyn: the nrdc says its approach will cost $4 billion a year. but they claim it will save over $25 billion each year in reduced pollution related illnesses like asthma. so we will wait and see if there's any action. thank you so much. dramatic new amateur video on the streets of serious capital. rebel forces battling government troops in damascus today. you can see rebel snipers shooting from
megyn: senator barack obama said if someone wants to build a coal powerplant, it's just that they will be bankrupted because they will be charged huge huge sums for greenhouse gases being emitted. could he effectively do it through the epa now what he was unable to do a cap-and-trade? reporter: sure, that is right. while liberal groups and others are looking for what the united nations is doing, what we used to call a kyoto at all, that process when he couldn't get a process through, he knows...
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if barak obama has growth not much more than 2%, his legacy will be ashes. it's surprising to me that he is incapable of recognizing that and trying to put something in place that will bring the economy back to life. >> gretchen: read all about it in the "wall street journal." always a pleasure. >> thank you. >> steve: straight ahead, he joined the army after pearl harbor and then flew on missions to test the atomic bomb. up next, this world war ii veteran, he will share his incredible story. then they can't make a deal in the fiscal cliff. what do you know about your elected officials and what are they doing instead? passing a bill that bans -- had is big -- wait for it -- bans the word lunatic. that's crazy! [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it mahelp lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just he to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. hurry in and
if barak obama has growth not much more than 2%, his legacy will be ashes. it's surprising to me that he is incapable of recognizing that and trying to put something in place that will bring the economy back to life. >> gretchen: read all about it in the "wall street journal." always a pleasure. >> thank you. >> steve: straight ahead, he joined the army after pearl harbor and then flew on missions to test the atomic bomb. up next, this world war ii veteran, he will...
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. >> that's the deal that obama says he would come down to, 37. the republicans say raise medicare eligibility. the left is completing freaking out over raising medicare eligibility and the right is freaking out about the tax rates. so they have to decide. the administration is clear that the tax rates have to go up. obama has given in on this before and so there's pressure on him. there's a lot of pressure on house democrats so i think if they can come to some sort of agreement on the rate and if republicans are willing to push the other stuff to next year, that's a deal. i mean -- >> but i think what argues against a big deal that includes any sort of cuts for instance up front on the entitlement side is republicans, if tax -- tax rates are going up either way either because you're going over a cliff or because the president will force you into a deal. they don't want to take responsibility for the economic fallout that comes. so if they agree to a big deal that includes spending cuts their fingerprints are all over it. it's likely they'll send
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clinton, and they told me that bill clinton and barack obama ave had a major falling out. lou: wow, afterll the campaigning? the elegant speech, really? >> because of this estrangement, i'm told, is back to the presidential election when clinton struck a deal with obama. in the deal, clinton said he'd give the nominating speech and go out and campaign for obama, but in return, he wanted a couple things from the president. first, clinton wanted to be a allowed to name the next chairman of the democratic national committee to have effective control of the party apparatus and all the money that goes with that. lou: that's a big gift. >> well, he did a big deal for obama. lou: right. >> secondly, he wanted obama to agree that he would back hillary if she runs for president in 2016, and that was a verbal commitment he believed he had from barack obama. shortly after the election, according, again, to my sources, clinton sent obama a list of five names from which he could choose the next chairman of the democratic national convention. lou: a list from clinton to the president? >
clinton, and they told me that bill clinton and barack obama ave had a major falling out. lou: wow, afterll the campaigning? the elegant speech, really? >> because of this estrangement, i'm told, is back to the presidential election when clinton struck a deal with obama. in the deal, clinton said he'd give the nominating speech and go out and campaign for obama, but in return, he wanted a couple things from the president. first, clinton wanted to be a allowed to name the next chairman of...
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person in the senate that can pass a bill in the senate as well. it sounds like people like howard dean want everybody's taxes to go up. maybe we should feel fortunate that president obama only wants the top two% to g two percent t. >> greta: do you anticipate republicans will vote for a rate increase if this should come to a vote? >> i don't believe they'll vote for a rate increase. what we'll vote for hopefully is to extend the current tax rates permanently and start working with president obama on true pro growth tax reform, but again, it sounds like treasury secretary geithner is happy to take the economy off the fiscal cliff, and again, if president obama wants to do that, he can do that, it sounds like that's exactly where he wants to go, what is kind of amazing, maybe republicans should take, you know, a victory lap from the fact that we've actually convinced democrats it's a good thing to maintain the bush tax cuts for at least 98% of the american population. i guess that's a good thing. i hope, i hope if president obama decides to increase
person in the senate that can pass a bill in the senate as well. it sounds like people like howard dean want everybody's taxes to go up. maybe we should feel fortunate that president obama only wants the top two% to g two percent t. >> greta: do you anticipate republicans will vote for a rate increase if this should come to a vote? >> i don't believe they'll vote for a rate increase. what we'll vote for hopefully is to extend the current tax rates permanently and start working with...
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bill. duggard says it's 40,000 people working. able-bodied people. they are working and working for. you tight give them medicaid. here is the thing you republicans are never going to understand. you don't get they'd like to see people get help. nine governors, nine republicans 150,000 average citizens not going to get healthcare. merry christmas for the republican governors for all of you. >> dana: now you're back to doing what you did in the election and not give us time to respond. >> bob: this is one more thing. >> eric: do my one more thing. i love dogs. good boy, good girl. check out what they're doing in new zealand. teaching dogs how to drive. the dog is porter. so shelter dogs can be helpful. this is a candidate for driving. he is a good boy! >> dana: last week, we did "sportscenter" when brian kilmeade was here but this is "animal planet." this is in the environment that he started to help them pull down a damaged tree. a video going viral that greg sent to me. good one more thing
bill. duggard says it's 40,000 people working. able-bodied people. they are working and working for. you tight give them medicaid. here is the thing you republicans are never going to understand. you don't get they'd like to see people get help. nine governors, nine republicans 150,000 average citizens not going to get healthcare. merry christmas for the republican governors for all of you. >> dana: now you're back to doing what you did in the election and not give us time to respond....
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bill: you mentioned the obama administration. how are they reacting? was is our response? >> our response tends to look first to the yate united nation. there is talk of proportional sanctions being considered at the security council should north korea test. but it's clear that is not going to change the trajectory of north korea's per suit of a nuclear program. bill: steven yates, thank you. we are watching this, sometime we believe in the coming days to 10 days. here's martha. martha: $120 million to develop the next electric car battery. it's not an independent venture. you are paying for it. the u.s. taxpayer. we'll tell you about the government's latest gamble with your money. bill: one man' home survived superstorm sandy. but it did not make it through the recovery. >> the township didn't know what happened. i called the governor' office and she said to me, are you sure your house is gone? i said, miss, you miss place a pen or pencil, you don't miss place a house. ♪ i wish my patits could see what i see. ♪ that over time, having high cholesterol and any of thesri
bill: you mentioned the obama administration. how are they reacting? was is our response? >> our response tends to look first to the yate united nation. there is talk of proportional sanctions being considered at the security council should north korea test. but it's clear that is not going to change the trajectory of north korea's per suit of a nuclear program. bill: steven yates, thank you. we are watching this, sometime we believe in the coming days to 10 days. here's martha. martha:...
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president bill clinton versus first lady michelle obama. both nominated for best spoken word album at this year's grammys. so, choose for yourself. here's mrs. obama's childhood memory, from her book about the white house garden. >> our apartment didn't have a dining room. so, we ate at the kitchen table. and unless my dad was working the evening shift at his job at the city water plant, we ate our meals together, as a family. >> and her opponent, president clinton, reading his book, "back to work." >> i earned my first money mowing lawns when i was 12. at 13, i worked at a small grocery store. >> so, it is game on for the two of them. >>> and speaking of game on, basketball powerhouse kobe bryant, way to go. the youngest player ever to reach a milestone and watch. it's his 30,000th point. joining the ranks of michael jordan, kareem abdul-jabbar. kobe has now spent half his life playing in the nba and we decided to go back and find his first point ever. there it was, a free throw. he was 18 years old, bookends for a truly amazing athlete. a
president bill clinton versus first lady michelle obama. both nominated for best spoken word album at this year's grammys. so, choose for yourself. here's mrs. obama's childhood memory, from her book about the white house garden. >> our apartment didn't have a dining room. so, we ate at the kitchen table. and unless my dad was working the evening shift at his job at the city water plant, we ate our meals together, as a family. >> and her opponent, president clinton, reading his...
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holding the number one spot is president barack obama. he's followed in the top five by angela merkel, russian putin, bill gates and pope benedict xvi or at pontfx on twitter. there's an interesting name at number 62 that jumped out, joaquin guzman, the biggest and baddest drug trafficker in the world. he heads the sinaloa cartel. it's interesting they notice the underground economy, and the guy is worth like a billion dollars. he's a big reason for a lot of the cocaine, heroin and marijuana in america. >> wields a lot of power. >> i wonder what else he does. >> heroin, cocaine, marijuana. multiple industries. it's proof to me, i think, that the war on drugs has xleecomple failed if an illegal drug trafficker is in the top 60. he's been on the list since 2009, so they've known about him. it's ridiculous this soort of person would be on the list, but then it calls into question the nature of power. yes, he has this power in terms of the drug economy, but he can't just go anywhere. he's in control of the space he's in, unless there's bodygu
holding the number one spot is president barack obama. he's followed in the top five by angela merkel, russian putin, bill gates and pope benedict xvi or at pontfx on twitter. there's an interesting name at number 62 that jumped out, joaquin guzman, the biggest and baddest drug trafficker in the world. he heads the sinaloa cartel. it's interesting they notice the underground economy, and the guy is worth like a billion dollars. he's a big reason for a lot of the cocaine, heroin and marijuana in...
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has fought so hard for, to the ç that bill in the house next week when we go back into session and give that srcertainty to the middle class. then we can work in earnest together to reduce the deficit in a balanced way that will make sure we don't first throw the middle class under the bus. that whatever we put forward have spending cuts and revenue that is going to take care of the middle class and make sure that we have spending cuts and revenue that ensures that they're fair and that the math works. there has been no evidence thus far that the republicans are interested in doing that. >> this has been the perfect opportunity for them to step forward and show some leadership. the majority of americans do want this right now. congresswoman, the president has asked you to stay on as d next c chair. what is the way forward for the democrats? what's happening here? >> well, we need to continue to focus on rebuilding our economy from the middle class out. president obama talked eloquently and passionately during the campaign about making sure that we can get a handle on this deficit, that
has fought so hard for, to the ç that bill in the house next week when we go back into session and give that srcertainty to the middle class. then we can work in earnest together to reduce the deficit in a balanced way that will make sure we don't first throw the middle class under the bus. that whatever we put forward have spending cuts and revenue that is going to take care of the middle class and make sure that we have spending cuts and revenue that ensures that they're fair and that the...
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obama care basically said, let's try them and a fewç conservati ideas like mal practice insurance. i call it a throw it at the wall strategy. other people do, too. basically throw the stuff at the wall. try everything. see what sticks. see what works. and then come back in two or three or five years and say this experiment is saving some money. let's expand it. let's put more money behind it and more incentive and this one isn't working. all right. get rid of it. you know, and even if just a few of these work, there's so much waste in the health care system and even if just a few of work, we'll save an enormous amount of money and go a listening way to saving the fiscal problem. >> jonathan, it seems, though, democrats have made medicare something of a sacred cow and maybe to their own peril. i'll quote david kendall with a post up in "the washington post." he's senior fellow at third way. he basically says, look, medicare will have to be trimmed and many democrats see that as a concession. you need to fix medicare to save it. which should be something that all democrats want to do
obama care basically said, let's try them and a fewç conservati ideas like mal practice insurance. i call it a throw it at the wall strategy. other people do, too. basically throw the stuff at the wall. try everything. see what sticks. see what works. and then come back in two or three or five years and say this experiment is saving some money. let's expand it. let's put more money behind it and more incentive and this one isn't working. all right. get rid of it. you know, and even if just a...
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that's probably in the ballpark, and obama deserves credit for that. >> bill: absolutely. i think so. you know, thi and we can't finde leader. if we could knock him out, that would be a huge victory. >> but he's down in the weeds, and he's not being very effective because he's hiding. >> bill: right. pakistan remains a problem, colonel hunt. the seals had to go in because the threat was they were going to get this dr. joseph and move him across the border into their sanctuaries, so pakistan remains a problem in this whole afghan war on terror, al-qaeda axis, right? >> it's a duplicitous country. without pakistan, they've got safe havens. they kept bin laden hidden in the west point. their intelligence community is still questionable, although they've lost -- the military has lost thousands of soldiers in the fight, but they have to be watched. they are our allies, but it's an uncomfortable relationship at best. >> bill: shis that getting worse or better, colonel peters, with pakistan? >> it's getting worse although the pakistanis aren't as noisy, we're paying them tribute
that's probably in the ballpark, and obama deserves credit for that. >> bill: absolutely. i think so. you know, thi and we can't finde leader. if we could knock him out, that would be a huge victory. >> but he's down in the weeds, and he's not being very effective because he's hiding. >> bill: right. pakistan remains a problem, colonel hunt. the seals had to go in because the threat was they were going to get this dr. joseph and move him across the border into their...
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is that in this bill? what's wrong with that? >> first of all, we don't have an actual proposal from the obama administration. again, i think this is just a little distraction, a bobble that they're dangling in front of the republicans. but if we got the rate down to 28%, it depends on how they're, quote, paying for it, unquote. and if they make our world wide tax system worse, if they force companies to declare investment expenses as taxable income, that's going to bias the system against new call tapital. there's all sorts of bad ways to finance it. on the other hand, if they're getting rid of the ethanol loophole and all that, it's good news. i don't trust the white house because their track record is so far to the left. >> you're not trusting them, i get that. what about this sort of conundrum. supposed they did drop the corporate tax rate from 35 to 28 and pay for it with loophole closures and put that aside. if you're a small business, you might still be sitting with higher tax rate because the upper end tax rates are going
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we had a pipeline safety bill that passed congress and was signed into law by obama in 2011 but it didn't go nearly far enough in beefing up finances to hire more inspectors. to mandate the increased placement of shut-off valves that in case of an incident in a pipeline you could limit the damage. melissa: yeah. >> and also i think we have to reassess the focus over the last decade of looking at terrorism security and look more at maintenance and operations particularly --. melissa: that is interesting point. let me talk to you about the details of this one. it took place just before 1:00 p.m. >> sure. melissa: it was a 20-inch transmission line. even though the gas flow had been shut off here there was still pressure in the line. you know, natural gas, it has become so abundant. it is so cheap right now. we use it so much. it is relatively cleaa on a fossil fuel basis. we forget how dangerous it can be. what do you think of what tyson had to say? >> well it is not clear that any of tyson's solutions would have stopped this because we don't know exactly what happened. the shut-off valve w
we had a pipeline safety bill that passed congress and was signed into law by obama in 2011 but it didn't go nearly far enough in beefing up finances to hire more inspectors. to mandate the increased placement of shut-off valves that in case of an incident in a pipeline you could limit the damage. melissa: yeah. >> and also i think we have to reassess the focus over the last decade of looking at terrorism security and look more at maintenance and operations particularly --. melissa: that...
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>>> do you remember what republicans called their bill to repeal obama care? i do. it was an act to repeal the job killing health care law. now, the whole job killing thing has always been a bit of a talking point myth. a nonport dan study of the very similar health insurance mandate enacted six years in massachusetts showed, quote, no evidence of reduced employment as a result of health reform there. still, that argument, the whole job killing obama care thing, sent the owner of red lobster and a bunch of other very carb friendly restaurant chains on a hapless misadventure in corporate protest that culminated today in a public and embarrassing and informative way. back in october, company called darden restaurants announced they were putting more workers on part-time status in stead of full-time to see if they would be able to limit the cost of complying with the new health reform law. under the new law, big companies like darden have to either offer health insurance or pay a $2,000 fine for each full-time employee. over 30 employees who ends up using public subsid
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obama got money from bill maher, didn't return it. his daughters had photo ops this guy. the comments he made in 2004 against our military is outrageous. it's the hollywood culture, entertainment. people want to be entertained. they don't care about the moral values in this issue. >> sean: the pc culture is what? define it. >> what barack obama is. he's a celebrity. he goes on the soft puffy shows, and he dances and sings. that's a stereotype, doesn't it, but people love this. everyone loves this guy, because he's african american, he's hip and cool. there you have it. you have a person who likes celebrity, likes the media who likes people who are celebrities, and invites this guy to the white house. >> sean: and republicans are saying eat your spinach, balance your budget, and -- >> you don't have the fox news channel, they don't ask serious questions. >> we should be striving for racial unity. think about a team. you like football. just this weekend, the washington redskins, the two quarterbacks in competition for the head rg3 got injured, kirk cousins stepped up. it wa
obama got money from bill maher, didn't return it. his daughters had photo ops this guy. the comments he made in 2004 against our military is outrageous. it's the hollywood culture, entertainment. people want to be entertained. they don't care about the moral values in this issue. >> sean: the pc culture is what? define it. >> what barack obama is. he's a celebrity. he goes on the soft puffy shows, and he dances and sings. that's a stereotype, doesn't it, but people love this....
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this was the exact thing they voters for obama decided to shoot down this union bill. >> it's surprising. >> it caught us all by surprise. it isn't going to be like wisconsin. i think this bill is going to pass. and the situation in wisconsin was different. you had to get a quorum, and they tried to prevent a vote on the bill and took a month of protests. i don't think that will happen. just need a simple majority in michigan and they will pass the bill and they won't have a chance to repeal it until 2014. they will have to win back the senate, the house and the governor. >> it is likely to stop in michigan. you look at states with right to work legislation, the whole deep south and a couple states in the west but the upper midwest and northeast has tried to stay away from that because of the strong tradition of union organizing in the state. you have indiana going the other direction and michigan looking like they might, and wisconsin could be next up although the governor hasn't said how he's going to proceed on that and i think it's going to embolden the an eye union forces to keep pu
this was the exact thing they voters for obama decided to shoot down this union bill. >> it's surprising. >> it caught us all by surprise. it isn't going to be like wisconsin. i think this bill is going to pass. and the situation in wisconsin was different. you had to get a quorum, and they tried to prevent a vote on the bill and took a month of protests. i don't think that will happen. just need a simple majority in michigan and they will pass the bill and they won't have a chance...
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guns on the debt limit bill you cannot reto it. the consequences will be so clam to us that you cannot veto it. so obama would have capitulated. megyn: that's what simon is saying now. that we shouldn't put the country in that position. >> the only way we'll get action on this debt. we keep spending and spending and raising our debt by $6 trillion every obama term. that's what catastrophic. the republicans need to stick to the boehner rule. a dollar of spending cuts for every dollar in spending increases. why give in on taxes and the fiscal cliff fight when you will have all the leverage. megyn: simon? >> in the rasmussen poll that came out today the republicans lost 10 points since the election in the congressional generic fight. they are losing this economic argument right now. if they pull what mark is saying, you are going to see the republican party's numbers in the 20s. they have no leverage on this thing. >> not going to happen. megyn: we'll leave it at that. thank you both. just ahead. a much more somber note. new warning a
guns on the debt limit bill you cannot reto it. the consequences will be so clam to us that you cannot veto it. so obama would have capitulated. megyn: that's what simon is saying now. that we shouldn't put the country in that position. >> the only way we'll get action on this debt. we keep spending and spending and raising our debt by $6 trillion every obama term. that's what catastrophic. the republicans need to stick to the boehner rule. a dollar of spending cuts for every dollar in...
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bill gates, pope benedict, ben bernanke, saudi king. more on how the list was assembled and other details, forbes media ceo, mike, thanks for being with us. >> this is important to us because nothing personifies what we do at forbes like our power list. we're about success and the impact of people who achieve success have. we have ten editors who get together. we draw on a huge bank -- >> they always agree on everything. don't they? >> exactly. there is some subjectivity, i must admit. they talk about the number of people that someone influences. the amount of financial resources that they have. how many spheres they operate in, are they just financial or are tle political or philanthropic. the fourth criteria is do they act on their power, do they use their power. and if you look at -- >> that's the reason why bill gates would rank so high here is how he has used some of his financial power in the philanthropic sphere. it was interesting to me, "forbes" magazine, leading business magazine, most storied one maybe of all -- >> i have no
bill gates, pope benedict, ben bernanke, saudi king. more on how the list was assembled and other details, forbes media ceo, mike, thanks for being with us. >> this is important to us because nothing personifies what we do at forbes like our power list. we're about success and the impact of people who achieve success have. we have ten editors who get together. we draw on a huge bank -- >> they always agree on everything. don't they? >> exactly. there is some subjectivity, i...
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anher bailout from president obama. that is what some in detroit say they deserve for helping reelect their commander-in-chief. the city on the brink of financial collapse and will soon lay off thousands ofity workers to pay off bills. the total outstanding debt is more than a billn dollars. that is according to mdy's investor services. joann watson city councilmember, her comments are sparking controversy. she claims the president owes the city another bailout because they voted them into office. >> he went to washington dc and he came back home with some bacon. that is what you do. that is what you do. are people overwhelmingly supported him in the election. not just at, buthy not? gerri: quid pro quo, bring home the bacon. very controversial. we are going to have one out in just a moment. but first, it could be a day of reckoning lawmakers in michigan considering changing the status to a right to work state, giving workers the freedom to opt out of paying union dues. we have the abor policy director for the mackic ce
anher bailout from president obama. that is what some in detroit say they deserve for helping reelect their commander-in-chief. the city on the brink of financial collapse and will soon lay off thousands ofity workers to pay off bills. the total outstanding debt is more than a billn dollars. that is according to mdy's investor services. joann watson city councilmember, her comments are sparking controversy. she claims the president owes the city another bailout because they voted them into...
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just as bill clinton managed to pin the blame for the government shutdown on newt gingrich and put the republicans in retreat, in terms of card playing, president obama has some cards that he can basically lay this off and perhaps it will fall to the blame -- fall on the republicans. that's why we think it could drift over the cliff. >> we'll see. i know you've been a champion of apple all year. we're going to ask you on the countdown if you'd still buy apple at these lower levels. that's still to come later. thank you, my friend. before we go to commercial here, some sad news for the business world and our family here at cnbc. saul steinberg, the father of our maria bartiromo, died earlier today at the age of 73. he was best known for launching a string of takeovers back in the 1980s. he was also an avid art collector and a major benefactor at the wharton school of business at the university of pennsylvania. he leaves behind a wife and five children, including maria's husband, our johnathan steinberg. our sincerest condolences to his family and friends and my dear friend maria, who is
just as bill clinton managed to pin the blame for the government shutdown on newt gingrich and put the republicans in retreat, in terms of card playing, president obama has some cards that he can basically lay this off and perhaps it will fall to the blame -- fall on the republicans. that's why we think it could drift over the cliff. >> we'll see. i know you've been a champion of apple all year. we're going to ask you on the countdown if you'd still buy apple at these lower levels. that's...
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then if the fiscal cliff is hit, then the persons that will be hit are president obama and harry reid. >> every single house republican needs to be involved in communication. if they passed a bill that extended the tax cuts for everybody and every single one of them went on local tv and local radio and said we have now passed a middle class tax extension, all the president has to do is sign it, you would have a totally different debate going on the next day. >> sean: this is what i feel is missing. the discussion, and as best i could, i'm trying to explain it, about conservative prime princi, about what's al at stake, and ai hear is or i sense a fear they don't want to go over the cliff and i sense a fear on the pr front and just even the president with the whole language of the debate seems like a defeat to me. >> i don't understand why they haven't said from day one this is the path to a balanced budget that has to involve entitlement reform and spending reform. i went to analysis on monday and interviewed mitch daniels who has been a terrific governor. mitch needed $3 billion for c
then if the fiscal cliff is hit, then the persons that will be hit are president obama and harry reid. >> every single house republican needs to be involved in communication. if they passed a bill that extended the tax cuts for everybody and every single one of them went on local tv and local radio and said we have now passed a middle class tax extension, all the president has to do is sign it, you would have a totally different debate going on the next day. >> sean: this is what i...
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bill clinton was the star. his job was to nominate obama for a second term in 2012. i really believe at the end of that speech if he had said, hey, while we're at it, can we nominate hillary for 2016 as the successor, by acclimation, that place would have done it. the change in mood toward the kk clintons was amazing. >> can hillary count on the same level of support, especially if the republicans, for example, were to run say marco rubio? >> absolutely. i mean, if hillary clinton when she ran against president obama actually won the latino vote 2 to 1. more importantly, a lot of lee tonos will remember how prosperous they were under a clinton administration versus a bush administration. not only would they definitely fall in line behind hillary clinton, but also let's not forget that latinas outvote their male counterparts. so they will be leading the charge in the polling booth in favor of hillary clinton no doubt. >> wow, i cannot wait. already licking my lips at the thought of it. thank you all. >>> next, the folks behind that hash tag fire boehner tell us who wo
bill clinton was the star. his job was to nominate obama for a second term in 2012. i really believe at the end of that speech if he had said, hey, while we're at it, can we nominate hillary for 2016 as the successor, by acclimation, that place would have done it. the change in mood toward the kk clintons was amazing. >> can hillary count on the same level of support, especially if the republicans, for example, were to run say marco rubio? >> absolutely. i mean, if hillary clinton...
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times reports the white house will begin an all-out drive for an immigration bill that will include a path to citizenship for the 11.1 million illegal immigrants currently in the country. the bill would also seek stronger border security measures, penalties for employers who hire illegal immigrants and would make it easier to bring in skilled foreign workers under special visas. in the interests of basic self-preservation, many republicans are also clambering for reform following their drubbing in the recent election when mitt's self-deportation policy lost the latino vote by a whopping 44 points. quote "there is a growing sense that this is an opportunity that should be taken, said ed jill esspi, a former republican national can i chairman. "there's no instinct like a survival instinct." for those thinking immigration reform will be a bipartisan community effort, think again. while many top republicans see a drastic need for change, many rank-and-file lawmakers remain skeptical. skeptical, indeed. politico writes regardless of exit polls, demographic trends and lectures from party le
times reports the white house will begin an all-out drive for an immigration bill that will include a path to citizenship for the 11.1 million illegal immigrants currently in the country. the bill would also seek stronger border security measures, penalties for employers who hire illegal immigrants and would make it easier to bring in skilled foreign workers under special visas. in the interests of basic self-preservation, many republicans are also clambering for reform following their drubbing...
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it was his bill. >> george bush. >> george bush 41's bill spread it to the rest of the world. his son, george w., approved this treaty. it was sent up by president obama in '09, the senate foreign relations committee passed it easily, and then these republicans abandoned it on the floor. people are crying on the senate floor. >> john mccain gave such a passionate speech. so you have, mike barnicle, american hero, war veteran, john mccain, talking about how we help the disabled across the world with weeping american heroes who were wounded in war, watching. you have the standard set by one republican president. the treaty drawn up by another republican president, george w. bush. and voted down with bob dole yet another american hero, war hero, watching. i'm actually dumbfounded. i'm dumbfounded. sploo joe, pick the adjective, sad, pathetic, outrageous, incomprehensible. these people in washington in both the house and the, they do not know each other anymore. they have no friendships across the aisle anymore. they don't know one another's families anymore. you have this spectac
it was his bill. >> george bush. >> george bush 41's bill spread it to the rest of the world. his son, george w., approved this treaty. it was sent up by president obama in '09, the senate foreign relations committee passed it easily, and then these republicans abandoned it on the floor. people are crying on the senate floor. >> john mccain gave such a passionate speech. so you have, mike barnicle, american hero, war veteran, john mccain, talking about how we help the disabled...
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it's what bill clinton deep sided to do and he went all in for obama in a way people didn't think was possible and it paid for him him. >> both of their -- it's why people like us can never say never. there's something about them that draws you back in. >> it's not just reporters. clearly it's the public. >> we've all talked about this. i always think the best indicator is whether you might run for president again, you've run before. you've got it. it's the carville. you never lose that fire. not really talking about it by biden is the same way. i don't know that we rule out joe biden. he's run for president twice before in his own right. >> in many ways it's the only -- barbara walters has to ask the question. it's almost easier than sometimes a beat reporter asking the question when it comes to chris christie and what may be the thing that sort of is a cloud that follows him around about running for national office. here's the question about his personal weight. >> there are people who say that you couldn't be president because you're so heavy. what do you say to them? >> that's rid
it's what bill clinton deep sided to do and he went all in for obama in a way people didn't think was possible and it paid for him him. >> both of their -- it's why people like us can never say never. there's something about them that draws you back in. >> it's not just reporters. clearly it's the public. >> we've all talked about this. i always think the best indicator is whether you might run for president again, you've run before. you've got it. it's the carville. you never...
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michelle obama is competing with bill clinton for a grammy for best spoken word album. the first lady red the audio version of "american grown," the story of the white house garden. the former president narrated his book "back to work." those are a couple of things we thought you should knowment time for the news narc gut check. treasury he secretary tim geithner told cnbc yesterday that the obama administration is absolutely ready to go over the cliff if republicans refuse to raise tax rates on the wealthiest americans. take a look. >> when it comes to raising taxes on the wealthy, if republicans do not agree to that is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthy. >> orrin hatch called that one of the most stunning and irresponsible statements he's heard in some time. what does your gut tell you? do you support the obama administration's decision to go over the cliff? that does it for this edition of "news nation." thanks for hanging with
michelle obama is competing with bill clinton for a grammy for best spoken word album. the first lady red the audio version of "american grown," the story of the white house garden. the former president narrated his book "back to work." those are a couple of things we thought you should knowment time for the news narc gut check. treasury he secretary tim geithner told cnbc yesterday that the obama administration is absolutely ready to go over the cliff if republicans refuse...
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petition, which would bring the bill that has been sent from the senate and pass the senate overwhelmingly sent to the house, take that bill up and give, extend the tax breaks to the middle class and give certainty to the middle class as we move to, continue to move into the holiday season. all of the tax rates expire december 31st and we can deal with the tax breaks for the wealthiest most fortunate americans and others to avoid the fiscal cliff between now and december 31st but take what we agree on which is that the middle class tax cuts should be extended and tax rates should not go up for the middle class, let's do that now. the republicans refuse to do that thus far, which is sort of baffling. even some of their senior members like tom cole from oklahoma have said let's take that deal, but let's pass the tax cuts for the middle class and we're talking about making sure that tax rates for 98% of all americans and 97% of all businesses. it's a small percentage of individuals that make more than $250,000 a year that tax rates would go up just a little bit. we had an election, thomas, wh
petition, which would bring the bill that has been sent from the senate and pass the senate overwhelmingly sent to the house, take that bill up and give, extend the tax breaks to the middle class and give certainty to the middle class as we move to, continue to move into the holiday season. all of the tax rates expire december 31st and we can deal with the tax breaks for the wealthiest most fortunate americans and others to avoid the fiscal cliff between now and december 31st but take what we...